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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Aug 4, 2011 11:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-08-04.sbd.miller.95308.sbeok.flac16

Set 1

Truckin'
Yellow Dog Story
Bertha
Me And Bobby McGee
Hard To Handle
China Cat Sunflower ->
I Know You Rider
Loser
Playing In The Band
Next Time You See Me
Me And My Uncle
Casey Jones
Cumberland Blues
Big Boss Man
Sugaree
El Paso
Mr. Charlie
Not Fade Away ->
Going Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
Turn On Your Lovelight

Yep just one long set on this night, although who could blame them for not taking a set break. I think if I were playing behind bars i would not stay any longer than necessary. Besides its not like they could do much more than smoke a cigarette between sets right?

The boys play a benefit for Bear who is incarcerated in SoCal and since they are headed to Hollywood the next night why not stop in a say hello to the sound man/chemist extraordinaire.

The setlist shares a lot with the next few nights and for that matter much of 1971, although even less jamming then the already low level jamming found in this year. Maybe they just didn't want to incite a riot or something However, while this show does not hold up to the next two nights it is still an interesting listen and of historic interest. Phil sings a lot of high harmony vocals which are pretty cool. So high that some of the reviewers seem to think its Donna. El Paso is a slow version which i really enjoy. Sue me, i like El Paso and I think it works as a slow ballad with Jerry playing it mariachi-like or faster where his blistering licks make you feel like you are on that horse trying to outrun the posse to Rose's Cantina. Definitely not one of Pig's better nights. He just seems a bit off. A few weeks later he would be off the road. Maybe it puts into perspective how impressive his performances between this date and the Bronx show are.

I do wonder if the warden let Bear get behind the soundboard this night.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 5, 2011 7:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

Got a question. Someone in the reviews said he was surprised by how high Bob could go on Loser. I was assuming the high harmonies are all Phil; right or wrong? Does Bob do some of the super-high harmonies?

Finally getting a chance to hear it -- really enjoying it! Go Phil! (Um, unless that's Donna on bass ... )

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Aug 5, 2011 7:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

I think its Phil. The person who thought it was Bob didn't seem to consider that it could be Phil. Here is the quote

"I never realized how high Bobby sings until I heard the chorus on Loser. I mean, if its just Bobby and Pigpen singing background, then man, Bobby's getting up way there. I don't think Bill or Mickey sing, do they? I've always liked those high notes hit in the background. Nice. I'm one of those guys that actually like Donna's contribution and those high notes, overshadowing the melody are just sweet."

Mickey wasn't in the band at this point so thats almost as bad as suggesting it was Donna. Seriously how could someone be such a fan of the band and not even consider that the backing vocals were Phil?

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 5, 2011 7:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

Yeah, I figured; and I think Phil's singing voice is pretty distinctive. But there's definitely a lot I don't know or may not hear well.

The Donna thing was funny. I'd think it was usually Bob who was mistaken for a girl!

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Aug 5, 2011 8:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

Wasn't that the Jerry line from a Letterman appearance? David asked them about how it was different from the old days, something about no more attractive groupie girls and Jerry responded with something to the effect of "back then Bobby was prettier than all the girls"

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Poster: deadheadhippy Date: Aug 6, 2011 6:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

i happen to have an org copy of this show sound is a little muddy great show phill is jamming on base great set list nice overall but thanks to charlies recording it sounds like you are right there thanks for making this show one o the finest recordings iv heard keep them commin!! peace

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Poster: madmonkmcphee Date: Aug 4, 2011 3:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

I enjoy this show more than the Palladium, probably in the minority here. Phil leads the charge and the band has great energy. My favorite yellow dog and some entertaining stage banter. "usually when we play shows people are trying to break in," Garcia.

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Aug 4, 2011 3:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

I think Bob showed a lot of balls (metaphorically speaking) telling that dog of a joke in that company ....... brings to mind the scene in The Blues Brothers when the beer bottles were hitting the cage screen !!!

Yep, a great show.

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Poster: deadhead53 Date: Aug 4, 2011 4:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

Nice call here elbow, this show does not always get a lot of attention because of all the other great shows from 1971 but it is one of my favorite from the summer. It has that Johnny Cash from Folsom Prison feel to it. Great call elbow! Get this show if you can, some sweet 71 love!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 5, 2011 7:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

Some interesting song picks given the context. And yet somehow no Mama Tried ...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Aug 5, 2011 8:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

Sing Me Back Home was also skipped this night and I suspect if an acoustic set was in order, Little Sadie would have missed the cut.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Aug 5, 2011 9:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

Lovin' this one elbow, thanks for recommending!!

Really digging Phil on Not Fade

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Poster: amosearle Date: Aug 5, 2011 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

One of my favorite Hard to Handles.

Phil was doing something here that just puts the whole thing together for me.

Again, saw him in St. Augustine last weekend and he was the one conducting much of the time, thank goodness. He plays a much different instrument now, but still bringing it in top notch style.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Aug 5, 2011 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

Hard to Handle was definitely at its peak in '71 and then it was gone. This one is good but i don't think it compares to two nights later or the greatest H2H ever on 4-29-71 which soars above all.

Okay, i am just trying to get WT to respond with that last bit. I think 8-6 and 4-29 are both great and can't really argue with someone if they prefer one or the other.

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Poster: amosearle Date: Aug 5, 2011 9:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

I'm just having a good headphone moment with Phil. Sennheiser 150's a not too expensive and handle a great range while drowning out the external noise. Makes my sphenoid vibrate!

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Aug 5, 2011 9:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

I just picked up a pair of sennheiser ear buds (sorry i forgot which model). I really like them. My Klipsch ear buds broke and i didn't like the fit of the Bose ones although the sound was good. Fortunately I have my own office and the JBL Creatures do a nice job in here and no one complains unless the Phil-loving gremlins in the building turn my bass knob way up and i start shaking the walls or the floor where the subwoofer sits.

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Poster: amosearle Date: Aug 5, 2011 11:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A unique TDIH - sorry no aud tapes available on this one

I just upgraded to an AV reciever in the house and have yet to buy surround sound speakers. I am open to suggestions. FOr now we're in a relatively small room with two bookshelf Bose speakers doing a pretty good job so I'm waiting on a good deal for a nice set.

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